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July 18, 2014 at 1:07 am #827chorrisbergerParticipant
All –
Angled back up sights are nice if you train with them – I would suggest getting a QD (quick detach) scope mount for your scope and stay with normal iron sights, so if optics fail – detach and go, but again train with both.Now a rant – cheaperthandirt.com – please do not frequent these price gouging fools – you can still buy cheaper at other sights for Mosin Nagant and you will not be supporting a bunch of price gougers – do the research these people are looking to take your money. During the Obamabanscare cheaperthandirt and a couple other retailers decided to rip off the consumer – NOT a friend of the gun community.
Sorry if the Students of the Gun are sponsors or trying to be – I will loose serious respect if they are – money clouds judgement.
AIMsurplus.com has Nagants and ammo and they did not gouge during the great ammo recession – (there prices went up – but not the double, triple, quadruple that cheaperthandirt.com pulled.)
Again Nagants are wonderful weapons – buy two or three and a couple cases of ammo – very inexpensive. Just pay attention who you buy from, buy from true patriots not gougers.
And train, train, train and have fun.
CJuly 18, 2014 at 3:21 pm #828DanParticipantchorrisberger,
Thank you for the link. I am always in the market for good deals.
Yours was not a rant, just good advice.
I went to the AIM website and as you stated they do have the Moisin’s for cheaper. However they only come with the bayonet.
While it is a gamble at Cheaper than Dirt I did get two complete rifles with all the historical trimmings. EG Tools, ammo pouches, oil cans and bayonets. Both were in top condition with flawless stocks. I was very happy. The ammo was delivered in 3 days and the rifles in 6. Though I did not get a can opener.
I noted that the ammo, 44O round spam cans are $10 cheaper at Cheaper Than Dirt and the shipping on 3 cans is also cheaper. The same when it came to 7.62 x 39 for the AK when I last purchased a month ago. So it is a gamble no matter where you go.Cheaper also has a much larger inventory for one stop shopping. I do shop around and thank you for another source.
Since my next purchase will be a Moisin for my daughter I will try out AIM to check out their process.
I agree with you concerning QD detachable scopes. I just wish I could find a source for pre made drop bolts for the Moisin.
July 18, 2014 at 5:35 pm #833The22ManParticipantGuys, just so you know, I wrote this about CTD, however if you see my post on the main page about where to get quality 308 ammo cheap, they (CTD) are on the list.
July 18, 2014 at 6:23 pm #834DanParticipantHoly crap! I did not see that during that time. But then I was not looking for supplies during that time.
Unacceptable! Blood suckers and perhaps Zionists taking advantage of people for criminal profit.You will never see a response from them.
July 18, 2014 at 11:18 pm #835chorrisbergerParticipantHey Dan –
Didn’t mean to hijack the good guy thread… sooo
Go check out our brothers at arms at talking lead – they have a Forum also – it is not as active but they do have some links to great sites to buy from.
Check out this forum – https://www.talkinglead.com/forums/topic/online-guns-and-gear-great-buys-are-at/
Gundeals and GunBot are very cool – happy shopping!
I swore off any online or brick and mortar stores that gouged during the last Obamascare – but that is just me.
CJuly 18, 2014 at 11:31 pm #836chorrisbergerParticipantOn a new note – I actually do have a good guy question up for discussion – 80% lowers? I have read, discussed and searched on the legality of them. From what I have found anybody can make a firearm – you just can’t sell/trade/give it away without serializing it. So my question is with all the legal issues that Ares Armor has had, how ‘safe’ and/or practical is it to go the 80% lower route? I have heard of 80% lower ‘parties’ but the legality is sketchy – but anything with the BATFE is sketchy as they seem to be able to pass ‘law’ at any given moment. Really, I am not sure I care too much about my serialized ARs, but would really like to build an AR from a semi-slab of aluminum (or polymer). What does SOTG think?
July 18, 2014 at 11:59 pm #837TexTopCatParticipantI agree it would be an interesting project. However, I think that putting together the rest of the gun from selected parts rather than purchase of a completed upper would be more interesting. You do not save any money on the 80% lower, probably you will spend a couple of hundred more by the time you get a working gun. I also question if your completed lower would last as long as a commercial one, hand tools are never going to do as accurate job as a commercial CNC machine.
July 19, 2014 at 7:50 am #838chorrisbergerParticipantTexTopCat – been there and done that – building an upper was interesting and satisfying – I created a very accurate 223 Wylde chambered AR and a couple of 300 blackouts. So the next step in the evolution of building an AR is to mill one… I think with a low speed drill press and an X-Y vise I could get really close to a CNC fit – I may be dreaming but it looks interesting. Cost wise I am sure there is no savings. I am more concerned about the BATFE and their position, or their ever moving position. I don’t want a bunch of jack booted thugs showing up at my door demanding that my firearms need to be surrendered.
CJuly 19, 2014 at 8:21 am #839TexTopCatParticipantLooking at the parts than need to be completed, it seems none of it would require more than normal accuracy in the milling process. I think in a few years that we will see much smaller and cheaper CNC machines available, especially for rental in hobby shops. Also, 3D metal printing is becoming more a real possibility. Printed lowers exist, not sure how good they are when build with low end 3D printers.
In any event, please let us know how it works out for you and what issues you find along the way.
As far as the ATF, they might be able to take the gun you built, but can not take the skill that you learned along the way.July 19, 2014 at 3:30 pm #840ShaneParticipantI’m going on vacation to our families time share in florida and would like to bring my pistol and AR. For some ranges in the area. But there will be nieces and nephews there and there is not a safe. What would be the best way to store my guns while I’m at the pool. Would a simple trigger rope lock that comes with the guns be enough?
July 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm #841StevoParticipantI live in an area that has a lot of lakes and beaches. One question I have always had is about concealed carry and swimming. I don’t feel comfortable just leaving a firearm in a bag on the beach, nor do I feel comfortable just locking it in a vehicle. Not only do I not have access to the firearm, but it seems like it would be a lot easier for someone else to get access to it. Instead of a firearm, I and up carrying a folding knife. It’s something I guess, but I would feel much more comfortable if there was a way for me to have access to my firearm. Any ideas?
July 19, 2014 at 7:39 pm #842DanParticipantchorrisberger,
Thank you for the links!!
80% lowers are legal to be sold because they are not completed. Requiring finish machining or severe garage patience “machining”.
The X Y vice and a drill press is a good idea. Standard drilling for part of the process and if you use a broken bit carefully ground flat watching the heat treat the xy process will work as a poor mans machine tool using sturdy larger bits. Since it is usually the plan of the hobbyist not to be a manufacturer serializing is not necessary as there is no patented process and no profit, No mass production.
Each “completed lower” is a gamble in the process and as such cannot be warrantied nor sold for profit. Transfer of ownership for cost and manhours involved. Keep explicit records.
Necessity is the mother of invention and as you say the experience cannot be taken away.
I have learned that in most situations one can buy tools and do the job yourself gaining the experience for less than the cost of hiring someone else and when you are done you have the experience and the tools. Of course that would not include a milling machine. However at Harbor Freight one can get a good deal on a milling machine once or twice a year if it is in stock when the sale takes place.As for Printing. I am still way on the wary side when it comes to cost and there has not been enough long term testing.
July 29, 2014 at 12:04 am #854aaron375ParticipantHi there,
I am relatively new to the gun world, and have just learnt that I am right handed, but left eye dominate. I have read very different ideas with regards to shooting handguns, rifles, and shotguns with this challenge. What are your recommendations? Am I going to have to replace my rifle with a left handed model?
Thank you for your time,
Aaron Neufeld
July 29, 2014 at 6:17 am #855IndysharkParticipantI live in Indiana, and work in Kentucky. I have been listening to Student of the Gun radio for about six months and love it.
I believe Indiana and Kentucky are free states. California, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut are obviously slave states. Can you give me a comprehensive list of which states are free and slave based on their gun laws?
July 29, 2014 at 7:40 am #856The22ManParticipantI heard the show report (show 75 part 1), I also have been taught in a fighting knife class that the D2 steel is great and weather / water resistant and keeps an edge.
I bought one 1 year ago this month and I have not done the test that Paul did, it has never been sharpened but has not been used a lot.
The only one I know of is made by Benchmade and at Cabela’s. -
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